tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4983334520933101277.post1959248316430513456..comments2024-02-16T06:29:33.587-08:00Comments on Welcome to " The Math UnderGround " -- Seattle & Washington State: More OSPI Math NONSENSE -- 5 min 30 sec............This time from Dr George Brightdan dempseyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15536720661510933983noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4983334520933101277.post-49204703387466251552008-04-14T18:41:00.000-07:002008-04-14T18:41:00.000-07:00Listening to Dr Bright very carefully and how he m...Listening to Dr Bright very carefully and how he managed to miss reality on every point, I finally got it.<BR/><BR/>He was Hired by Dr Bergeson to get her out of the math mess with as little political damage as possible.<BR/><BR/>Listen to the Dave Ross conversation with him keeping that in mind.<BR/><BR/>What you will find is a total miss on almost everything he mentions. I do not think he is that ignorant of the truth. I see him as fulfilling his job to get Dr B reelected. His arguments on the Dave Ross show would lead you to believe the kids are learning lots of math, we just have a little testing problem. No big deal.dan dempseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15536720661510933983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4983334520933101277.post-58961440100630857992008-04-13T16:38:00.000-07:002008-04-13T16:38:00.000-07:00Finally with Dr Bright's help I now know why so mu...Finally with Dr Bright's help I now know why so much educational data presented appears to be cherry-picked.<BR/><BR/>It is because most Superintendents only hire Cherry-Pickers.<BR/><BR/>WOW !!! How could I have missed that this long??dan dempseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15536720661510933983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4983334520933101277.post-24989345652494556272008-04-13T13:39:00.000-07:002008-04-13T13:39:00.000-07:00Thanks Marty,I really find this continuing fraud t...Thanks Marty,<BR/><BR/>I really find this continuing fraud that I call the Great Math Hoax, something that should be subject to legal prosecution, as apparently there is no way to stop this.<BR/><BR/>Thank God the SPS school directors may have finally decided to STOP our kids from be washed down the Politically Correct stream and out to sea any longer.<BR/><BR/>I was just really tired. Today I found the information in the Report appendices listed as a separate file on the SPS website.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.seattleschools.org/area/strategicplan/StrategicFramework_Appendices.pdf" REL="nofollow"> It is a beauty look at report page 8 which is .pdf page 9.</A><BR/><BR/>How did Dr Bright miss that???dan dempseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15536720661510933983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4983334520933101277.post-61769872026276085992008-04-13T08:33:00.000-07:002008-04-13T08:33:00.000-07:00Dan,You've said it extremely well! Thank you.Mart...Dan,<BR/><BR/>You've said it extremely well! Thank you.<BR/><BR/>Marty McLaren (not Anonymous!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4983334520933101277.post-5042406784277093472008-04-13T06:28:00.000-07:002008-04-13T06:28:00.000-07:00Teachers need more Professional Development in Bri...Teachers need more Professional Development in Bright Bergeson Debacle-ism<BR/><BR/>= MORE Bright Bergeson failure for our state's kids, and <BR/><BR/>= MORE employment for Bright Bergeson minions / associates / collaborators who created this failure and dumped it on our state's kids.<BR/><BR/>Bright Bergeson math has been a staggering, colossal failure for TENS OF THOUSANDS of our state's kids without the family affluence to overcome Bright Bergeson math - the affluent still take the SAT and AP at higher rates than the less affluent, and the affluent PROBABLY pass at higher rates than non affluent* ? <BR/><BR/>(*I can't find data on scores by family income on the College Board sites - I have a day job that is 50+ hours already - <BR/><BR/>how about this for a fact - <BR/><BR/>IF some kind of data is hard to find, it is because it reflects badly on those in charge and they don't want that data available!)<BR/><BR/>There is data that lower income kids don't do well on WASL from the Washington State Institute for Public Policy, <BR/><BR/>http://www.wsipp.wa.gov/pub.asp?docid=07-01-2205<BR/><BR/>and there is data from the same group that the Bright Beregson math programs to help kids pass didn't work,<BR/><BR/>http://www.wsipp.wa.gov/rptfiles/06-12-2202.pdf<BR/><BR/><BR/>QUICK MATH REALITY WASL PROBLEMS:<BR/><BR/>1. What happens when about 38000 kids can't take 52% of 74000? <BR/><BR/>about 38000 of them fail the 2006 Math WASL!<BR/><BR/>2. What happens when about 38000 kids don't understand how to divide 38000 by 74000? About 52% of 74000 fail the 2006 Math WASL!<BR/><BR/>3. If you are 1 of the 38000, what are your chances for getting a job better than minimun wage? <BR/><BR/>4. If you are 1 of the 38000, what are your chances for moving beyond the income of that first job?<BR/><BR/>5. If you are 1 of the THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND, what is YOUR chance for getting high level skills so that it is YOUR choice between Boeing, Microsoft, the next Google, or delivering pizzas?<BR/><BR/>END MATH WASL REALITY QUESTIONS.<BR/><BR/>Here is the REALITY of the Bright Bergeson ideology:<BR/><BR/><BR/>IF we math teachers had practiced their pedagody turned ideology, <BR/>THEN the kids would be successful.<BR/><BR/>Ignore the 38000 of 2006 <BR/>(and the 34000? of 2007<BR/><BR/>There is a perverse beauty in Bright Beregson's blame-the-teachers ideology - it keeps him employed and it keeps district headquarters math 'gurus' employed and it keeps College of Ed math 'gurus' employed ...<BR/><BR/>it keeps employed ALL the people who've brought us this 20 year failure <BR/><BR/>AND<BR/><BR/>it blames the teachers for their failure! (Jeesh, did I say that again?) <BR/><BR/>IF we math teachers had practiced their pedagody turned ideology, <BR/>THEN the kids would be successful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com